1921 Sunbeam standard

Started by Anji Mehra, April 26, 2016, 07:49:23 AM

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shorrog

Hi
Soft solder will melt at 180-190 deg C.

Graham

Anji Mehra

Quote from: phutton on May 09, 2016, 11:47:16 PM
I would echo what Ian says - a lot of parts on a flat tank Sunbeam are soldered, so high temperature stoveing will see the tank, rear chaincase etc, fall apart!

P.

Thanks Paul. By the way,What temp would the solder fail. Did this model come with no electrics whatsoever. Theres no lights,wiring, dynamo etc. Cant find any info on the net
Anji

Anji Mehra

Quote from: iansoady on May 08, 2016, 02:11:29 PM
Stove enamel would have been the original finish for frame, cycle parts etc but you need to be careful as some modern re-enamellers won't be familiar with older bike parts. It's increasingly difficult to get it don in the UK.

Thanks Ian.

phutton

I would echo what Ian says - a lot of parts on a flat tank Sunbeam are soldered, so high temperature stoveing will see the tank, rear chaincase etc, fall apart!

P.

iansoady

Stove enamel would have been the original finish for frame, cycle parts etc but you need to be careful as some modern re-enamellers won't be familiar with older bike parts. It's increasingly difficult to get it don in the UK.


Anji Mehra

Hi
Is it OK if I use stove enamel black paint. There's a guy here who specialises in stove enamelling.

Anji Mehra

Quote from: andy on May 03, 2016, 08:17:53 AM
if it fits the platform and goes in the right direction,  probably yes

Thanks Andy
Anji

Anji Mehra

Quote from: phutton on May 03, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
You will also need to check the spindle height of the mag above the platform. As standard, mags were either 45mm or 35mm. A 35mm type can always be fitted with a spacer plate between the mag and the platform.

P.

Thanlks Paul
Anji

phutton

You will also need to check the spindle height of the mag above the platform. As standard, mags were either 45mm or 35mm. A 35mm type can always be fitted with a spacer plate between the mag and the platform.

P.

andy

if it fits the platform and goes in the right direction,  probably yes

Anji Mehra

Hi

Another query : Is it permissable to use a BTH KA 1 mag on the 1921 Sunbeam. Iam unable to locate either a MIC or a ML
Thanks
Anji

Anji Mehra

Quote from: andy on April 29, 2016, 05:40:51 PM
the model 7 on ebay belongs to me, if I can be of any help regarding pictures or measurements just let me know, cheers Andy

Hi Andy
Very gracious of you to offer help in my restoration. Much obliged.
Your bike is a beauty. How does she run & are you able to ride often ?
I will be in touch to bother you once I dismantle everthing.
Yhanks again for the offer
Anji

andy

the model 7 on ebay belongs to me, if I can be of any help regarding pictures or measurements just let me know, cheers Andy

Anji Mehra

Quote from: wessex_man on April 28, 2016, 06:52:47 PM
There is quite a nice looking 1922 model 7 on UK Ebay at the moment looks quite good as far as originality goes and worth borrowing the pictures  ;)

Found it Wessex. Thanks
Anji



Anji Mehra

Quote from: wessex_man on April 28, 2016, 06:52:47 PM
There is quite a nice looking 1922 model 7 on UK Ebay at the moment looks quite good as far as originality goes and worth borrowing the pictures  ;)

Tried looking for this on EBAy, but no luck. Do you have the item code no or something Please.
Thanks

Anji Mehra

Quote from: phutton on April 28, 2016, 06:29:15 PM
Hi Anji,

I have sent you a sketch of a Model 7 tank. It may not be exactly the same as yours, but it will give a very good idea of the lining layout.

The magneto is likely to be an EIC, although an ML would work just as well. The carburetter could be either a B&B or an AMAC type 15 HYDM or HYSP. The choke diameter is probably 1" although you could use a 15/16"

I hope that helps!

Paul
Thanks Paul. Great help. There is nil info here in India about Sunbeams. I have restoration manuals of almost everything under the sun, but cant find any on this bike. By the way, I cant access the sketch you sent. Could you please resend.
Attaching a few photos of the tank. Does it look right to you ? Also attaching a photo of My Flash we restored 6 years back. Take her often to Goa ( 550 kms ea way )

Anji Mehra

Quote from: wessex_man on April 28, 2016, 06:52:47 PM
There is quite a nice looking 1922 model 7 on UK Ebay at the moment looks quite good as far as originality goes and worth borrowing the pictures  ;)
Thanks Wessex

wessex_man

There is quite a nice looking 1922 model 7 on UK Ebay at the moment looks quite good as far as originality goes and worth borrowing the pictures  ;)

phutton

Hi Anji,

I have sent you a sketch of a Model 7 tank. It may not be exactly the same as yours, but it will give a very good idea of the lining layout.

The magneto is likely to be an EIC, although an ML would work just as well. The carburetter could be either a B&B or an AMAC type 15 HYDM or HYSP. The choke diameter is probably 1" although you could use a 15/16"

I hope that helps!

Paul

Anji Mehra

Quote from: shorrog on April 26, 2016, 09:26:27 AM
These from a 19173.5 hp  & a 1925  model 5
Graham

Thanks Graham

Anji Mehra

Quote from: shorrog on April 26, 2016, 09:21:23 AM
Hi Anji
I have a few photos of models around that era but not specifically the 1921. The photos below are from a 1923 and 1926 I will also post photos of a 1917 model.
Graham

Thanks Graham
Will try & post a picture of my tank tomorrow. Not able to find anything on the net regarding the oil hand pump, mag & carb but will continue trying. Ride safe
Anji

shorrog

These from a 19173.5 hp  & a 1925  model 5
Graham

shorrog

Hi Anji
I have a few photos of models around that era but not specifically the 1921. The photos below are from a 1923 and 1926 I will also post photos of a 1917 model.
Graham

Anji Mehra

Hi,
My Sunbeam tank seems to have been modified in the past. Can someone help with either a photo or drawing of the tank so that I can restore it back to original
Thanks
Anji