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General Category => Technical Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Badgerman on February 21, 2023, 05:49:03 PM

Title: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: Badgerman on February 21, 2023, 05:49:03 PM
Guys - the bike I have just purchased has a top and bottom mudguard support that looks original as in this photo but does not have the larger lower stay. Is this actually another mudguard support or does it serve another purpose? Some bikes seem to have it and some don't.

Thanks again
Jamie
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: Peter 100 on February 21, 2023, 06:10:30 PM
Jamie
I had a similar question a few weeks back and got quite a few responses that might help you. If you look back a page for a topic called "front wheel stand" started by Peter 100 it might help.
Cheers
Peter
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: Badgerman on February 21, 2023, 06:36:01 PM
many thanks Pete
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: oggers on February 22, 2023, 10:22:26 AM
Mine is a 1931 model 9 and looks completely different to your sketch. Front and rear stays with a central support between the forks.DSCF3384.JPG 
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: singleminded on February 22, 2023, 04:06:44 PM
But how does the stand pivot down past the mud flap on the guard without removing the pivot bolts?
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: oggers on February 23, 2023, 08:48:39 AM
It won't and I don't think it is a stand. I have recently been informed mine may well be 1931 registered but a 1932 model. Also many changes may have taken place since it left the factory! Having said that, I have seen other 1931 models with a similar arrangement.
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: singleminded on February 23, 2023, 07:19:51 PM
I've come across 1932 models registered in December 1931. My brother-in -law had a 9A like that.
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: Thomas on February 24, 2023, 07:50:51 AM
If you have a mud flap then the stand is always below. This is shown in all catalogues from 1928 to 1938. Only racing machines are different. Your arrangement is wrong.
Title: Re: 1931 Model 9 front mudguard question
Post by: phutton on February 27, 2023, 04:09:25 PM
I can't see from the photos, but if your M9 has a QD front wheel, which leaves the brake-plate in place when you remove it, then that is a 1932 model fork. If you would like to PM me with the frame and engine numbers and a photo of the timing side of the machine, I would be able to confirm that.

The mudguard stays for all models except M90, 80 and 95 are very thin, totally unlike what you photo shows. I agree with other correspondents that what you have is a front stand in place of the correct stays. Have a look at the catalogue pictures, and you will see what I mean.

Paul H