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Title: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 05, 2018, 07:57:38 PM
This bike is in a real (almost roofless) barn find condition. While pretty complete, inc headlamp, apart from the frame, forks and stand it is in a poor state and appears to have been stored outdoor for years under a small cover. It would require a lot of effort to get it back on the road. There are no documents and the number plate is unreadable.
I know a photo would help but the bike is dismantled due to lack of space and I appreciate it is worth only what someone would pay. If such a person exists.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 06, 2018, 09:13:28 PM
How long is a piece of string?

What is the asking price?
How badly do you want it?
are you prepared for an enormous expense?
are you prepared to search/make for the missing parts?
Have you the money?

the price range could be vast depending on the ignorance greed of the owner
There is no set price for such a thing.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 09, 2018, 08:11:11 AM
Hi kbryt
Many thanks for your honest words. Much appreciated,
JimmieS
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 09, 2018, 10:45:21 AM
Having said all that, I'd still be tempted to haggle for it;  all Sunbeams are worth saving,depends on your wallet size that's all.

Don't turn your back on it just yet, do try for some pics somehow. One mans pile of junk is another mans project
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 10, 2018, 09:00:30 PM
Apologies for any confusion. I own the bike but with one thing and another I will never get around to rebuilding it.

Perhaps an advert something like,
'I would like to transfer ownership of this lovely little machine, one of only half a dozen or so left in the world to an enthusiast who, with a little input of money, time, talent and engineering skill could restore it to the magnificent bike it once was.'
could chase the price up to 99p or even a £1!
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 10, 2018, 09:11:29 PM
My bid 10 quid.
would love a photo or two.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 10, 2018, 09:34:01 PM
So would I! It was dismantled and boxed many years ago and is inaccessible  at present without much rearranging of the other junk in the garage which I know will have to be sorted out sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 11, 2018, 08:58:43 AM
I do garage clearances..... ;D
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: singleminded on November 11, 2018, 09:30:37 AM
JimmyS....check out the results for Fridays H&H auction at the National Motorcycle Museum  and see what lot 6 and lot 7 went for..I was there and I dropped out of the bidding on both these items.Lot 6 had no tinware except for oil and fuel tank. The rear wheel was out of something else???. the forks were there and the exhaust and rear mudguard stay and front wheel. No brake drums.
Lot 7  was mostly complete,the head lamp was a '40's type, an original front mudguard was there as well and all in sound condition. The forks were totally worn out and looked like a very expensive repair job if you could'nt do it yourself.
both had non transferable registrations, which is why i was interested for a future build.John
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 11, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
John, many thanks for the link. Do folk go daft at these auctions or is it sometimes a case of 'must have.' Or a little of each?
Jim
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 11, 2018, 06:30:51 PM
They go daft, believe me they go daft ::)
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 11, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Is that not a prerequisite to be a vintage motorcycle enthusiast?
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: singleminded on November 11, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
Both these bikes were bought by the same man and he says he is going to restore them, fair play to him..
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 12, 2018, 10:33:27 AM
Quote from: JimmieS on November 11, 2018, 07:59:37 PM
Is that not a prerequisite to be a vintage motorcycle enthusiast?

daft yes, but not reckless  with the wallet ;)
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 12, 2018, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: singleminded on November 11, 2018, 10:29:34 PM
Both these bikes were bought by the same man and he says he is going to restore them, fair play to him..

The number of times I have heard that,  often when there is s tree growing through he rusty remains.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: singleminded on November 12, 2018, 03:54:10 PM
Along with the other 50 he already has :o.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 12, 2018, 08:43:18 PM
yes,  he'll go to his grave saying I'll do them up one day..........

seen it so many times. All those hoarders just create  a scarcity and inflate prices.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: JimmieS on November 12, 2018, 08:53:21 PM
In an attempt to avoid something similar I am engaged in a 'PDCO' {PreDemise  Clear Out), hence the request for guide valuation.
Jim
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 12, 2018, 08:59:10 PM
love to try but can't bid on a blank page.

Put it this way, as a start guess  it has to be worth over 1,000 they way things are these days.

Then again my 100% original 1929 350 cost me 250 quid.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: singleminded on November 12, 2018, 11:02:52 PM
My 9A cost £5---- in --1969.
Title: Re: Rough guide value for a rough 1930 Model 2 please
Post by: kbryt on November 13, 2018, 10:31:35 AM
Huh....

I wish I had held onto the Sunbeams I had back then, hindsight would have us all rich, but I do still have the 1938 500cc Matchless I got for free back in 1967.